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P2020/0195 Planning Committee meeting 8 September 2020 |
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AWL = Arwyn Woolcock - COD = Council of Death document - CLM = Councillor Mizen - CPC = Suzanne Paddison Chair - CWP = Chris Williams, Plaid - DMP = Del MOrgan, Plaid - DPR = Dai Richards - GLP = Geraint John, Planning - SKI = Simon Knoyle, Independant - PCO = Planning Committee - PDE -= Planning Department - TDD = Terry Davies Drainage |
WAW / HEOL Y GLYN / Videos / 01-meeting-basic / 20200908A-VI-pcom-3-enzo
(filmed from the Council YouTube Channel - https://youtu.be/d7LwpVlT4q4 )
add 50.40 for the YouTube video to the times below when looking at the on-line version
0.00 | CPC | open meeting - CWP in foreground
00.24 marked for approval 00.36 literature (COD doc) |
0.50 | SBP | Ref COD
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1.27 | CPC | asks SBP how he knew the COD was from me. |
1.35 | SBP | says by email and that all of the
matters were included in doc "everything within the
submissions"
2.22 CWP good image |
2.17 | CPC | carry on |
2.18 | SBP | presentation |
2.25 | CPC | COD to be taken into consideration |
2.33 | SBP | presentation
7.52 - all of their concerns have been summarised 8.10 Jeremy Miles 8.18 local councillors DMP SKI - extensive on-going discussions with the ward members 8.40 support for residential - acceptance of the extant planning permission 10.20 stock pile brought on necessary for the approval (last approval 2010) link with photo of tip 2015 11.15 - material brought off the site. levels 17.20 culverting the stream - normally wouldn't do this 17.50 contam land - amendment sheet - steve hunt - mentions me - then mo - amendment response through mo - no objections on contam (from where) 19.05- conditions 19.50 concerns and what has been brought onto the site 20.10 - no evidence 20.25 - conditions again 20.50 - not heavily contaiminated - quite to the contrary - that should be drawing red flags 21.10 human health - no objections - pollution control officer no reasonable grounds to object re land contam no open spaces - not appropriate 21.59 approve with conditions |
22.22 | CPC | take over - welcome to Ceri Morris,
DPR, GJP
DMP cut short - early exit |
23.16 | DPR | DPR representation -
landfill site - a rubbish tip 24.12 enzo mention & trees 24.25 - COD report - 24.33 - PCO stamp PDE malpratice 25.14 - document withdrawn 26.00 - 2-8 brynhyfryd asked again to rubber stamp malpratice 26.33 - cuddy group never intended to build
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28.40 | CPC | open with my comments - personal opinions - come back at the end to me |
29.30 | GJP | reading off a prepared document
not comment on DPR integrity because integrity is not a planning matter 31.46 - further conditions to be imposed 32.30 - not at risk of flooding 33.05 - land contamination - extensive & thorough reports have taken place at the site historically. These can be relied upon, but not withstanding that, have been further updated and reassessed in considerable detail. The site has an extant planning permission which resulted in a significant volume of fill material being imported with changed site levels, this material however will be removed from the site. Extensive dialogue has taken place between the applicants advisors and the contaminated land officers and this matter can be adequately dealt with and mitigated |
34.03 | CPC | hand over to Del |
34.32 | DMP | submission |
38.07 | CPC | hand over to SBP does he want to make any comment |
38.23 | SBP | come back later - trees TPO prior to any planning approval being given |
42.22 | CPC | hand over to SKI
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42.40 | SKI | extensive discussions
over the last 12-18 months
concern over potential tipping of chemical waste 3.45 - additional ground surveys done to unserstand what is at the site 44.00 - talk to Enzo on site and phone 45.50 surveys since 2010 |
46.53 | CPC | hand over to Bamsey |
47.20 | Bamsey | support members & in particular possible contamination |
47.56 | CPC | complete chemical survey in conditions, hand over to MMC |
48.24 | SKH | butts in and thanks
DMP & SKI, plus SBP & CMP for his pre-questions report
and their responses and he wants to ask Mo if the conditions are
robust enough to alleviate the concerns of the people living
there from flooding.
Contamination - he's not going to judge anybody - previous developers - he thinks it very important that we understand - Mo wouldn't have the answers. We do need to know exactly - not just for the residents but for the environment. We have all been told the environment is so important so anything that is on that site we really need to be made aware of so we as members know what to do today when we vote. |
51.05 | CPC | apologies to SKH |
51.23 | MMC | 52.00 - full history of
the site
52-38 fully characterise the site recommended for human health that councillor SKH has mentioned |
53.36 | CPC | hand over to |
53.50 | SKH | his concern is that
the Cuddy Group fill was not monitored.
We really do not understand what might be on the site. Happy if DMP & SKI - bumbling |
54.48 | CPC | hand over |
54.56 | SKI | |
54.57 | CPC | summuarising MMC - Mo needs to be satisfied before building work could commence |
55.26 | MMC | confirming CPC summary |
55.32 | SKI | NPT close off all of
the issues and concerns - ne being ground contaminants
56.05 - plateau cut and filled - excavated and spread - and then test - if ground has carcinogenics |
56.40 | CPC | hand over |
56.55 | DMP | testing at all levels
57.05 - pleased to see current plan proposes to take away the bulk of the spoil heap which is a new thing for years we've expected that mountain to remain there which is crazy |
57.38 | CPC | hand over - SBP SPL AWL waiting to speak - Tammie Davies excahnge & Bamsey come back - |
58.20 | Bamsey | Condition 39 - cxoncerned about the workers - struggling to find a condition - testing prior to work |
59.16 | CPC | hand over |
59.20 | SPB | Cond 36 - and the conditions - MMC needs the full picture - HAPPY |
61.04 | Bamsey | happy |
61.06 | CPC | explain Cond 39 |
61.15 | SBP | taken off site - licence - NRW misrep - Enzo shared info - not a matter for planning to worry about - |
61.59 | CPC | hand over |
62.03 | SPL | Sean Pursey Labour runs through and explains the conditions - he mentions remediation |
63.50 | CPC | addresses SKH and hand over |
64.33 | AWL | COD - land
contamination - obtained legal advice about the document Council
of Death
(filmed from the Council YouTube Channel - https://youtu.be/d7LwpVlT4q4 - he starts his rep at 1.55.00) |
66.57 | CPC | hand over |
67.09 | MMC | dev issue
whatever material is on site is suitable for use |
67.46 | CPC MMO | Financial implications - do it to my satisfaction - exchange about remediation |
68.20 | AWL | happy but if low levels are contam then it would make sense to remove it |
68.50 | CPC | clear of contamiants to
MMC satisfaction
Enzo won't be able to build unless MMO satisfied |
69.30 | SBP | NRW misrepresentation - inert - allegations - definitely unproven - developer will do the right thing - |
70.49 | CPC | hand over |
70.53 | Cllr Mizen | mentions MMO DMP & SKI and welcomes their stance |
71.30 | CPC | |
71.54 | SKH | flooding - musn't make
mistake - pipes not adequate enough
73.16 - CPC hand over |
73.20 | DMP | flooding - extant -
surface drainage
CPC hand over |
74.05 | SBP | Terry Davies intro -
TAM 15 - mentions SKH -
CPC hand over |
75.15 | TDD | flooding issues -
technical detail of culvert to be decided by Ordinary Water
Course procedure. 1 in 100 + 30% event1.17.35 - close to DPR
property. Greenfield run off
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78.40 | CPC | on chat, a discussion between DPR and SBP - CPC mentions me |
79.21 | SKH | asks about SARS
CPC hand over |
80.18 | TDD | reply about SARBS
CPC hand over |
80.37 | SKH | more flooding |
81.23 | CPC | SARBS not required |
81.58 | DKL | Focus on CPC smiling and saying well said |
82.26 | CPC | 82.56 - summary
MMO eagle eyed professional officers - conditions - they will be managed |
85.24 | SKI | Trees & section 106
CPC hand over |
85.45 | SBP | section 106 &
CPC discuss (watch again - check notes for this exchange) SKI good relationship in being able to talk to the developer 87.35 - trees - 90.05 - SKI running away from screen |
90.13 | CPC | hand over - DMP thank Terry |
90.24 | DMP | thank for responses - 4
points
test boring - drainage - section 106 back in the 1980s one in place £30,000 - trees 91.17 CPC hand over |
91.25 | SKI | he's back - trees important to residents - informal discussions with Mr John & Mr Enzo |
91.58 | SBP | trees - retaining trees
GJP landscaping plan
CPC hand over |
93.45 | CPL | trees - what burden are they putting on the developer |
94.23 | SBP | trees and Enzo wants to
get on site ASAP - GJP remove as much burden as possible
CPC hand over |
96.43 | SPL | trees |
97.25 | CPC SKH SBP | SKH motion amendment to
trees or second - CPC & SBP correct wording exchange - Mike
Shaw process advice
101.10 SKH sings national anthem |
101.55 | CPC | looking after the residents and the trees |
102.44 | SKH | moves for the approval
- DKL seconder
104.40 - SKH approve 104.55 - CWP approve 106.04 - Nicola Lake's contribution |
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